{"id":37989,"date":"2023-03-28T00:28:00","date_gmt":"2023-03-27T23:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thedoctorwhocompanion.com\/?p=37989"},"modified":"2023-03-27T17:29:08","modified_gmt":"2023-03-27T16:29:08","slug":"the-cybermen-almost-appeared-in-the-sarah-jane-adventures","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thedoctorwhocompanion.com\/2023\/03\/28\/the-cybermen-almost-appeared-in-the-sarah-jane-adventures\/","title":{"rendered":"The Cybermen Almost Appeared in The Sarah Jane Adventures"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"ttr_start\"><\/div>\n<p>Russell T Davies has revealed that the Cybermen were considered to appear in the <em>Doctor Who<\/em> spin-off, <em>The Sarah Jane Adventures<\/em>, but the idea was vetoed because the concept behind them is so dark!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Similarly, the Daleks weren&#8217;t felt to be appropriate to be in the SJA.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s more, we almost got another tale in the <em>Who<\/em>niverse from Matt Jones, writer of <em>The Impossible Planet\/ The Satan Pit<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Davies explains:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>&#8220;Matt Jones once pitched a Cyberman invasion of Bannerman Road, and I sat there thinking, &#8216;What the Cybermen do is remove your brains and put them into metal \u2013 that\u2019s\u00a0<em>horrible<\/em>&#8216;.<\/p><p>&#8220;I don\u2019t think Cybermen fit five o\u2019clock in the afternoon. I don\u2019t think Daleks do. We were always dying to get the Daleks in there, but if Sarah Jane and a bunch of kids could defeat a Dalek that makes the Daleks pretty soft!&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>He <a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/sci-fi\/doctor-who-boss-cyberman-story-sarah-jane-adventures-newsupdate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">continued<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>&#8220;You wanted great big villains, you wanted the end of the world, but she\u2019s not the Doctor, so you have to temper that by saying they\u2019re brilliant, brave amateurs. That\u2019s why in <em>Turn Left<\/em> you saw that Sarah Jane and the kids had tried to stop Florence the Plasmavore [from <em>Smith And Jones<\/em>] and been killed.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Yep, that was pretty grim&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nonetheless, sometimes the horror of the Cybermen is leaned into, but not always &#8212; often, they&#8217;re just seen as The Enemy, so could&#8217;ve been in <em>The Sarah Jane Adventures<\/em>. Equally, most of the kids watching it would also be watching <em>Doctor Who<\/em> so would be aware of the Cybermen and recognise the idea behind them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It might&#8217;ve seen a boost in ratings too, similar to how more people tuned in when the Doctor (played by David Tennant and Matt Smith) cameoed. The series was so good, it deserved more time in the spotlight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Would you have liked to see the Cybermen and\/or Daleks in the SJA? Or would you be worried about the programme messing them up, \u00e0 la <em>Cyberwoman<\/em> (in <em>Torchwood<\/em>)?<\/p>\n<div class=\"ttr_end\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The idea was pitched by The Impossible Planet\/ The Satan Pit writer, Matt Jones.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":38060,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_publicize_message":"The Cybermen From #DoctorWho Almost Appeared in The Sarah Jane Adventures","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[205],"tags":[831,55,44,22,200,3537,25,212,667,2004,49,1889,357,750,812],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/thedoctorwhocompanion.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cybermen.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":3664,"url":"https:\/\/thedoctorwhocompanion.com\/2016\/07\/05\/which-is-the-better-spin-off-torchwood-or-the-sarah-jane-adventures\/","url_meta":{"origin":37989,"position":0},"title":"Which is the Better Spin-Off: Torchwood or The Sarah Jane Adventures?","author":"Philip Bates","date":"5 July 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"This will always be a hot debate: both Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures hold special places in many fans' hearts. 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